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Bates15
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not beeing your pastor and not knowing you gives me a slight advantage. I can tell you without seeing how you react. Not that I would have a other view but this takes less time.....

Indeed I am saying dont marry. As harsh as that seems. AC makes a good point when he says a conversion at this point, after you have made clear you are going to split becouse of different views of life, would be a almost certain part time conversion. After you are married you will see he stops going to church, dousnt pray any more and so on.... Averige within 12 months (yes this has happend before)

Have you talked with your pastor? What did he say? He is your spritual leader and he should be anbel to advice you in these times. I know my pastor has a clear view on these subjects and realy takes the time to minister to people.

Like sheep know the vioce of the sheapard..... That is how you know the voice. You also have (HAVE) to read the word of God. It is not called like that for nothing.

AC and I have Email if you would like to talk with some privacy. I really want to advice you to talk to your pastor. He/she is the firts person you should turn to. That is the way the spiritual line of command is..........

Still in our prayers...
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hildy
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Joined: 18 Jun 2003

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Location: West Coast

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I talked to my pastor once about this, and he was helpful. But I haven't spoken with him since.

Thanks for providing your honest opinion Nate and keeping me in your prayers. I don't know what I'm going to do.

You guys have been helpful and kind with your time.

Peace.
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ACfixer
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Location: Victorville, CA USA

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRECISELY what Nate said Hildy. There was (is) a slogan that was popular in the states... WWJD (What Would Jesus Do?), there were stickers and keychains etc...

For me it goes like this: Pray, read the Word, pray again. That is the bare minimum for me to begin to let God lead me. I pray he will show me clear and concise answers to the day's questions and options. When the path is not clear to me I consider at least two things... 1.) What would Jesus do?! 2.) Do my thoughts about what Jesus would do line up with scripture?

May I suggest the book of Matthew. The 4th chapter Jesus is confronted with options (temptation to SIN) by Satan. Each time Satan tried to make his temptation appear harmless and even justified. Once he even used scripture to try and prove his point, to which Jesus answered by cross-referencing the scripture so it could not be taken out of context, he considered the WORD of God as a whole rather than in parts! Satan is way craftier and a far bigger liar than any person you will ever meet. You don't stand a chance against him without Jesus. Satan will try to make evil seem good, and good seem evil and without Jesus and the Word to sort it out for you he will succeed.

Now in Chapters 5,6, &7 you will find some of the most beautiful scripture in the whole Bible. Jesus teach the Sermon on the Mount where he just flat out tells you and I how to live our lives. If everybody on earth lived what Jesus taught in these chapters there would be no problems.

Fellowship (hang out with) Christian females of all ages, tap their faith and knowledge, ask their advice and ask them to back it up with scripture. Go to the Pastor yes, but also see if you can get to know his wife. She most likely will have an idea how to help you spot genuine men of God.

This IS harsh... Satan WANTS you to marry an unbeliever, even to the point of trying to get your boyfriend to fake a conversion. Satan hates you, he hates your boyfriend, he hates me and he hates Nate. It's all he knows and one of the most effective ways he will attack is through discord in the family through whatever means he can find. You are in for a WAR here girl, you enlisted when you accepted Christ and in the end He (and you!) will be victorious (read the end of the book Wink ) but you are required to fight many battles along the way, some will be easy and some difficult. You will win some and most likely lose some (Satan IS TOUGH). You will win far more than you lose if you follow the example of Jesus in Matthew chapter 4. You will likely face fewer battles if you live as close to the teachings in 5,6, &7 as possible.

God bless you Hildy, and yes, e-mail us anytime if we can be of help. Rest assured that you are in my prayers Smile

Lance
ac_fixer@hotmail.com
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hildy
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Joined: 18 Jun 2003

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Location: West Coast

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Lance, i'm going to begin praying regularly and reading the word regularly. I'm going to start there and see where that takes me.

Thanks so much for pointing out particular bible passages. They will be investigated.

Let me tell you, Satan has beaten me before badly, and I guess a part of me continues to live in fear that he'll get me again. Mostly I fear that he'll get me again only i won't even know it. Sort of like he did the first time.

I really enjoy discussing this subject and I'd like to continue. I'll send you an e-mail at the address provided later on tonight when I'm not at work.

Thanks to the both of you for keeping me in your prayers. And answering my questions. You're in my prayers too Smile
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tommyd
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Joined: 24 Aug 2003

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Location: NE PA, USA

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I chime in?

How do you know what God has in mind for you? Pray that he will lead you. In fact , pray that he will carry you down that path... give the situation to the Lord.

You feel that saving for retirement goes against the Word? Read the parable of the talents. We are to be smart about what God gives us. Plus, the better we save for retirement, the more likely we can continue to tithe.

And finally, do you have to make a decision on marrying him soon? No. In fact, you can back down a little from the relationship and (I hate to say it) be more like FRIENDS for a while. Is that possible? Clear your head and get in touch with with other Christians.
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