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ATatum
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: Blessed New Year Reply with quote

I pray that each of you have a Blessed New Year.That the site grows many times over.I pray a blessing on all the ministries represented here.I ask that God increases talents of all those that visit here.I pray that most of all we all see many souls come to the kingdom in the following year.I pray for the healing of my brother Dan.I know God is only beginning to show what he has in store for you.God Bless You All as You Have Blessed Me
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sharring
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen.
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J Dan Brown
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Joined: 18 Nov 2007
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Location: Elm Grove, LA

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, AT! I pray as well for all of you to be incredibly blessed this next year, even those who refuse to participate with us. I appreciate the prayers for my seizures, but although I know He can and will heal, but only if He chooses through His perfect will, I'm OK if He doesn't. I have tried intense prayer, monster faith, and have abandonned all meds a few times, but the Father always allowed me to flop on the lawn and parking lots within a week, and once practically took me to His Heaven. I know he has a work called for me, but it involves my condition as part of it and I expect to be overly medicated and to never drive out of my lawn ever again in my life. I even doubt than unless God's voice was a shout, I would not even know that a healing had occured, but I will accept with worship and prasie it, if I am made aware. But, I will also do the same for my condition or any other trial I am asked to face in the future. Every time I get over-confident with either Doctors, medication or God's plan, He seems to test all.

I accept the total and complete sovereignty of God with honor, even if He chooses that I have that seizure that I never return from, even tomorrow.
My wife once had a prayer she was giving for a lady halted when she used the term "if it be God's will," stating that my beloved had ruined her own prayer with her lack of faith and God only honors what was demanded with total faith. Well if this lady thinks that anything slips up on God, or trips Him up, or occurs out of His will or power, she needs to seek His Word and pray intently for wisdom. Well, I'm sure I got that all wrong too, George, so how about it? I can take it with laughter, I think.
Blessed, by my personal God-chosen path, Dan
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George E
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J Dan Brown wrote:
My wife once had a prayer she was giving for a lady halted when she used the term "if it be God's will," stating that my beloved had ruined her own prayer with her lack of faith and God only honors what was demanded with total faith. Well if this lady thinks that anything slips up on God, or trips Him up, or occurs out of His will or power, she needs to seek His Word and pray intently for wisdom. Well, I'm sure I got that all wrong too, George, so how about it? I can take it with laughter, I think.

Blessed, by my personal God-chosen path, Dan


I think that lady was either in error or misinformed. God is not petty. Faith is a gift from God, given through the Holy Spirit. Therefore, even if God were petty (and He is not), He still wouldn't hold it against anyone if they were lacking in a gift that comes from Him in the first place!

God doesn't love us because we are good, He loves us because He is good. His love for us is infinite, as his His compassion. One single prayer to God receives infinite love in return. So, whether God receives one prayer or one hundred prayers asking for the same thing, his reply will be the same, because nothing increases infinity.

That's not to say that praying for others is without merit. It's only to say that one single prayer will never be ignored nor that if one doesn't say exactly the correct words in the correct sequence, God will be offended and will withhold His love. Those who think prayer is some sort of mystical incantation that has special powers, similar to casting spells like some sort of wizard, is mistaken. God knows what's in your heart. If you speak what amounts to a verbal typographical error, God's not going to hold that against you.

I can't tell if you agreed with that lady or not, so I don't know if your understanding of God's love was based on that misconception or not. I do agree that seeking wisdom is important. It's someone one should pray for, and it's something one should work for through careful, prayerful research.

That's why I recommended studying the writings of those who God inspired to write commentaries on the Scriptures. Those commentaries do not have the authority of Scripture, yet that doesn't mean that they aren't without value in illuminating the message of Scripture. If one listens to one's pastor's sermons to gain additional understanding, why should one reject similar messages from those who God inspired?

I'm not referring to contemporary people, though some of them might have wisdom to convey. I'm referring to those who have written inspired commentaries on Scriptures over the years. I'm referring to people like Saint Augustine, Saint Gerome, the Bishops who wrote the Nicene and Apostles' Creeds, Luther, Ignatius, Malcanton, Zwingli, Knox, Calvin, Niemoller, Lewis, Wesley, Keller, Moore, and many, many others. Those were just a few that came to mind off the top of my head. I can't imagine why anyone seeking God's answer to a question would reject reading the answer that God gave to someone else who asked the same question earlier, and wrote His answer down for others to read.

And please understand, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm simply offering you extra things to contemplate, and passing along things I've learned and/or been taught. I am, after all, a preacher. That's what preachers do.
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J Dan Brown
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George, forgive me, but you never cease to amaze me! How could statements like: "Well if this lady thinks that anything slips up on God, or trips Him up, or occurs out of His will or power, she needs to seek His Word and pray intently for wisdom" possibly leave any doubt in your mind that I disagreed with the lady's thinking? How could you ever not be able to tell where I stood on this or if I ageed or not?

Or how could sentences like "I accept the total and complete sovereignty of God with honor, even if He chooses that I have that seizure that I never return from, even tomorrow" lead you to any other conclusion other than that I chose to believe that faith does not exist large enough to change God's will, and nothing occurs that is not part of God's plan or His will. The Word makes it clear that we should pray because He commands us to, not for the possibility of reward.

And if there is any more doubt, George my brother, I do believe that this lady's theology of man's faith or Satan's works having the power to cancell out God's will, and those who taught her this, TOTALLY in ERROR.

All I was trying to say to my friend, ATatum, was that while I covet his prayers, I don't personally make or expect prayers FOR my healing, or even for my healing to BE God's will, but only for God's WILL TO BE done in my life. Only God and not me or any human, knows and plans what's best and has the power to cause it to occur and will.
Blessed, especially with a heavy sigh, Dan
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sharring
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

God's will is the ultimate expression of faith IMO J Dan. Discerning it is a lifetime's work. Here's a true story. An elderly lady was dying in a local hospital. She had'nt been responsive in 2 days, no intake or output, nail beds purple and cold etc. Just her heart beating. The family was on a round-the-clock vigil wondering why she hadn't "gone on". Then a middle-aged women shows up. Apparently she is the estranged granddaughter who this lady help raise. While a teenager they had a huge fight, resulting in this lady moving out of state. Well, to make a long story short, she heard of her grandmother's illness and came back to ask for forgiveness. When she arrived it was the first time the old lady had moved. Her heart rate went up, so i went to check. She and her granddaughter were holding hands and crying. Soon afterward she left and the old lady passed away. God's will. Smile
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J Dan Brown
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great story, AT! But it's still all God's will. Forgiveness, in a way, unlike "bless me, give me" prayers, invololves sacrifice and brings not only joy to another and yourself, it brings glory and honor to the Father, as well.

My own Mother has set some kind of record for length of time surviving with Altzheimer's disease or Dementia as it it called in some places. She hasn't had a relevant thought in many years and has to be fed every meal, and is growing ever easier to choke while being given blended baby food and thickened water or milk (like syrup) three times a day. Because of her choking problem, it would be much easier to have her tube fed, but my Father feels like that would be like nearer the the last part of making her like a machine and he doesn't want to keep her alive like a robot. Only Gods knows why he has allowed Barbara Brown to live 12 years like this or what He allows to even go on in her mind that she can't communicate to others. She may have already been in a Paridise in her mind for a decade. Whatever, I am sure that it's as God intended, because nothing but His will can or will occur. He knows when He will require her and we (her family) have to wait upon Him and on His time. Or He could choose to restore her mind tomorrow to as like the brilliant 25 year old she was or even choose to allow her to choke on some water and allow no sucess reviving her. In every scenario, it is my duty to give Him all prasie, honor and glory for what He chooses.

In John 9 when asked who had sinned, that a certain man had been born blind, the blind man or his parents, Christ said neither sinned, but it was so that the works of God could be manifest in him. The works of God are mainfest in my Mother, whether I understand them or not.
Blessed, so incredibly and immeasurably blessed, Dan


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markm2553
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great Prayer AT.

May the New Year allow us to see God's blessing in our lives even clearer.
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PunkStar
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. I hope we call all be good to each other and have a happy new year.

Here's to another year of friendly socialization on the board and hopefully a year free of too many moderation duties Very Happy
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