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Herb
Labrador
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Posts: 306
Location: Kansas City, Kansas, USA
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 Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 1:46 am Post subject: Here goes the neighborhood! |
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Howdy, AC and all! Will ya let a poor sinner come and play?  |
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sharring
Tiger
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
Posts: 815
Location: Texas
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| Come on in brother Herb...and learn me something about jazz! I checked your website out-very cool. So what gear are you using? scott |
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Steve
Bear Cub
Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Posts: 620
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Here goes the neighborhood! |
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| Herb wrote: | | Howdy, AC and all! Will ya let a poor sinner come and play? |
Boy I sure hope so. 'Cause we're all sinners!
I have committed a few Jazz crimes in my day too, but the only recording of it I have will NEVER be shared (it's that bad).
I remain a student of the genre though.
I'll still a practising Christian too. Maybe someday I'll get it right.
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Herb
Labrador
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Posts: 306
Location: Kansas City, Kansas, USA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| sharring wrote: | | Come on in brother Herb...and learn me something about jazz! I checked your website out-very cool. So what gear are you using? scott |
Thanks, Scott and Steve! Scott, all my gear is on the www icon below. On the CD and live gigs i usually use the 355 or LeGrand through the '65 Twin. But Fender's new Twin Reverb Classic 15 has caught my eye, and I will be trying one as soon as they are on the street. A Twin with 1x15 should be like an 88 watt Standel - perfect for jazz! If I get it, the '69 Twin will go in trade.
I'm trying to relearn Christianity, I took the wrong path for a LONG time, it's a rough row to hoe, but I have faith! |
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Steve
Bear Cub
Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Posts: 620
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Herb wrote: | | ...I'm trying to relearn Christianity, I took the wrong path for a LONG time, it's a rough row to hoe, but I have faith! |
The World says, "god helps those who help themselves."
The truth is, God helps us because we're always helpless!
We don't do anything for God, He does it all for us! |
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sharring
Tiger
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
Posts: 815
Location: Texas
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, Herb. You have some excellent stuff. I'm 43, so I can really relate to your collection of axes and Fenders. Interesting to hear about the new Twin classic 15. I knew they were coming out with a reissue Tweed Twin low-power, you know the 26L6 model. But I've wanted a Brown Tolex Pro with the 15" JBL ever since I heard one at the local GC. The tremolo is surreal. The big speaker seems to engulf you in sound-a wave rather than a beam. Right now I'm using a 68DR with a P12N for classic rock and blues and just don't need/can't justify anything larger. It's gonna be nice having you around sir-please feel free to jump in or start your own topic (there AC, I said it for you). Be Gods-scott |
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Herb
Labrador
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Posts: 306
Location: Kansas City, Kansas, USA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks, Scott, that's several years worth of accumulation, and I've got 10 years on you (53). I do have the '65 Dual Showman with the 2 x 15 JBL D130's, it's got tone from Heaven, but it's definitely no fun to take to a gig. That's why I'm looking forward to this new Twin. A side by side comparison with my '65 Twin and the LeGrand should be interesting. I'll tell you about it when it happens, the store said they should be released by the end of this month. |
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Brian
Pit Bull
Joined: 26 Aug 2003
Posts: 373
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Welcome to the board brother Herb!!
I'm so glad to hear that you are hearing the Lord's call. That's awesome!
I too have a real fondness for nice archtops; the instrument as art. The LeGrand is a wonderful example  The CD on your site is great stuff. I play in a local community Jazz big band; we play standards, mainly Swing, some Blues, some Latin. We play local community events, malls, retirement centers and the like, and take an annual short tour to places in the US and Canada. One of the best things for me is my 16yr old son plays 1st trombone.
I have a 50/100 watt Mesa Boogie MK II-B that I love the sound of with my L5. But it weighs 80 lbs! Packing that thing on dates and rehearsals was getting to be a real drag. I had to get something lighter. I found an Evans AE200 that works well for me. 200 watts, 2-8" speakers, about 2/3 the size of my Boogie and just under 40lbs Nice full sound, plenty of power, but a Twin chassis with a 15" JBL, WOW!
I also play 2 Worship services at my church. Anyhow, nice to meet you and again, Welcome! |
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Steve
Bear Cub
Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Posts: 620
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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My Les Paul DC Special is my Jazz guitar, along with my Pro-Jr!
No kiddin'!
I was at a club called Bocci's Cellar this afternoon playin' "Girl From Ipanema," "How Insensitive," "World On A String," etc.
Now I'll admit I'm runnin' a 0.013" high E; 0.017" B string, etc. But those P-90's work pretty well in the front position.
I have a Showtunes job coming up too. I might make an ebony bridge just for fun, and to de-ping the highs a bit more (it still sometimes sounds like a solidbody) But I've had good luck softening the bridge on guitars before, that you wouldn't normally think of for Jazz.
Of course I've used Tele's and Strats too, and I've had my share of plywood archtops like ES-175's, Guilds, etc. Even a Barney Kessel standard once too, but I just can't seem to live with 'em. I do too much other kinds of jobs to keep much money in a specific archtop for Jazz.
Maybe someday in my rockin' chair years. 
I played a guy's Gibson Citation once, just sittin' in. It maybe was the model before the LeGrande? |
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Herb
Labrador
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
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Location: Kansas City, Kansas, USA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks, fellas, and bless ya! Steve, the LeGrand is the replacement for the Johnny Smith. I don't gig with it in small clubs, because if you can't get away from the amp, the body is so sensitive to sound vibration (it's a full acoustic archtop, no holes cut in it for pickups, a floating mini bucker mounted to the pickguard), you can't keep it from howling at any volume. In those close places I use my '64 ES-355 Mono. P-90's make great jazz p-ups, as long as you have an amp that'll keep them from getting "dirty" on ya! They've got GREAT tone! |
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ACfixer
Moderator
Joined: 15 Dec 2001
Posts: 1649
Location: Victorville, CA USA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Herb, glad to see you here buddy. If he hasn't already introduced himself, Herb is the moderator over at GibsonTalk and I guess a sinner like the rest of us
I've the fortune of having a CD from the jazz band Herb plays in, this guys can sling an axe!
Welcome to the Forum Herb! |
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Steve
Bear Cub
Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Posts: 620
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| Herb wrote: | | ...the LeGrand is the replacement for the Johnny Smith. I don't gig with it in small clubs, because if you can't get away from the amp, the body is so sensitive to sound vibration (it's a full acoustic archtop, no holes cut in it for pickups, a floating mini bucker mounted to the pickguard), you can't keep it from howling at any volume... |
Oh yeah they feed back when they're acoustically responsive! I had a Heritage Eagle with a floating pickup on it and a solid mahogany top.
We did the Miss Santa Cruz pageant one year at the Holiday Inn: my amp was behind me and everytime I would stop damping the guitar body with my arms it would just take off with a horrible moose call!
Then the piano player would look around, and I'd glare at the bass player!
I took to using a Telecaster, and offed that Heritage. Nice guitar around the house, but ungiggable (like you say) at any volume!
I had a pretty nice Guild Savoy (plywood with two mounted humbuckers) last year, but the short scale was hard to keep in tune. I was always touching up the tuning between almost every song. It was a mystery to me. I was using Thomastik-Infeld "Be-Bops," in 0.014" - 0.053" which seemed stable enough. Nice enough guitar, but I think the short scalelength was a factor (24&3/4").
My current Les Paul plank has the same scalelength and is a bit touchy that way too. Oh well. I just keep one of those clamp-on-the-head tuners on it and tune often.
Last night I did manage to fabricate a wooden bridge for the LP, which helped the tone quite a bit. Got the intonation very close too (just dumb luck).
It still has plenty enough highs for other work, so it's now a pretty versatile lil' ol' ax.
I guess I qualify to visit the Gibson board you moderate at now.
Gotta link?
Tks! |
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Brian
Pit Bull
Joined: 26 Aug 2003
Posts: 373
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve wrote: | | Herb wrote: | | ...the LeGrand is the replacement for the Johnny Smith. I don't gig with it in small clubs, because if you can't get away from the amp, the body is so sensitive to sound vibration (it's a full acoustic archtop, no holes cut in it for pickups, a floating mini bucker mounted to the pickguard), you can't keep it from howling at any volume... |
Oh yeah they feed back when they're acoustically responsive! I had a Heritage Eagle with a floating pickup on it and a solid mahogany top.
We did the Miss Santa Cruz pageant one year at the Holiday Inn: my amp was behind me and everytime I would stop damping the guitar body with my arms it would just take off with a horrible moose call!
Then the piano player would look around, and I'd glare at the bass player! |
No doubt my old 72 L5-CES is not as acoustically responsive as many/most/some acoustic archtops; it's not as responsive as my late 40s Regal but the only (fairly new) Guild/Benedetto Smith/Artist Award (whatever they're called nowdays) I've played in the last year was not as responsive as my L5. It can honk. My Evans' eq can compensate fairly well. Last summer I played both a big local vaudvillian concert hall date, and an outdoor amphitheatre on a date we played during (not for) the Vancouver BC jazz festival. Plenty of power & great tone, little/no honk.
BTW, read on the web where a temporary solution to the honk is blow up a balloon inside the body and it damps the top just enough. Pop when you're done... I haven't had to try it.
http://www.onestopjazz.com/kvansant/equipment.html
Now see if you can't get that beautiful LeGrande some more performance time! |
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Brian
Pit Bull
Joined: 26 Aug 2003
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| Steve wrote: | | I had a pretty nice Guild Savoy (plywood with two mounted humbuckers) last year, but the short scale was hard to keep in tune. I was always touching up the tuning between almost every song. It was a mystery to me. I was using Thomastik-Infeld "Be-Bops," in 0.014" - 0.053" which seemed stable enough. Nice enough guitar, but I think the short scalelength was a factor (24&3/4") |
My L5 has a little problem staying in tune until it's warmed up. After it's been played a bit, it settles in and no more problems. I just use my Boss TU2 between numbers until it stablizes. Never bugged me enough to do anything about it. |
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Steve
Bear Cub
Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Posts: 620
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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| Brian wrote: | | ...My L5 has a little problem staying in tune until it's warmed up. After it's been played a bit, it settles in and no more problems... |
Yeah, it was temperature sensitive, and maybe that was the biggest problem, but it seemed like I had to always keep after it. Nice guitar overall though, just not as versatile as I seem to always need. Dedicated Jazz ax for sure. Nice lookin' wood too.
I'm getting the sound I want now, from "the plank" (LP Special). Nobody can see me in the orchestra pit usually anyways, and in clubs I don't care what it looks like!
Someday though, I'd like a nice solid top archtop for noodling on the couch. I had a 1939 Epiphone once that was about right (except the neck was like a big ol' log).
I once had a '54 ES-175 that sounded as good as most solid tops, unplugged!
But the bar I played it in back then had a noisy cash register and pinball machine that BOTH got picked up by that P-90.
"Ka-CHUNK" every time someone opened the cash drawer or dropped a quarter into the pinball machine!
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