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Worship Team Organization, Methods



 
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Brian
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:21 am    Post subject: Worship Team Organization, Methods Reply with quote

In the Cutting Loose This Weekend thread

Ferrari 1 wrote:
The only way I'm able to worship, while playing, is to be so prepared that I have everything committed to memory. That's the key. Although I can read music, on stage is not the time for me to be doing that. It is impossible to worship, for me, if I'm reading charts.


Good comment and a good lead in to a subject that deserves it's own thread...

If I have not rehearsed a song as I should have, I'm thinking about reading instead of worship and that's not good. Shame on me for not giving my time to the Lord for preparation. But reading alone does not hinder me in reaching a state of true worship.

The WL for the 1st (Traditional) service (the What Would You Do? thread WL) does not rehearse the team prior to warmup at 7:00 (doesn't actually start until ~7:20 when the pianist (yup, same one) comes in) before the 8:00 service. I would come in on Sunday morning & charts (mostly notation; hymnals, some include chords) are on my stand. I find the order of service shows some songs are to be played in different keys than written "so they flow together better". Because of that and I'd rather use a capo on an acoustic with mediums rather than play fatiguing barre chords for the b (flat) keys and sometimes 4# for the last 8 years my skills to read & transpose on the fly have gotten pretty good. But my ability to enter into a state of worship is hindered by this schedule and lack of proper rehearsal.

On the other hand, the Youth/Young Adult service team rehearses every other week, spending most of the precious time going over and over new material until it's right. The charts (chords only/vocal) are always in the correct key. The WL also emails the charts for Sunday to the team usually by Wednesday so we have time to go over the charts individually. We spend the pre-service warmup time going over the material together (after prayer time and a devotion, I appreciate that very much). I take real good notes during the warmup (without instruments, the WL plays solo guitar) and mark my charts with pickup config, amp channel, fx, & queues on exteneded rests, fills/solos, and my vocal parts. That extra intense concentration on preparation just before the service helps free me for worship, and I use the charts mainly for the notes I took and lyrics.

And somewhere in the middle, the 1st service WL also leads the 3rd service (Adult Contemporary) team. Rehearsals every week but no warmup time. Again, arrangements and keys often differ from what's written on the charts (more chord/vocal but still a lot of multi-page notation, most include chords). And the WL (a former touring pro) is more content with getting basic familiarization with the songs and seldom will go over & over & over the songs in rehearsal. Actually when we did do that one week for a new young drummer and I thanked him for the extra work, his response was "I don't like to do that/this team doesn't need to do that." I was very disappointed but stuffed it.

Needless to say, the 2nd service is my fave but that WL won't do any hymns; I LIKE hymns and since there's 2 acoustic guitarists in that service, I never get to play my Taylor. But I appreciate the commitment to quality/integrity.
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malevolentsparkle
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, i'm a worship co-ordinator for henderson baptist church in waitakere city, new zealand. in my experience, it would be stupid to not have pratices. in my church we have an hour and a half before every service where we set up, go over the songs we're gonna do, do sound check, and pray. we also have another practise on tuesday nights where we practice songs (especally new songs and songs we have problems with) in instrament groups and in band groups. we have been running the tuesday night paractises for a couple of months now and we and the congration have noticed the difference.

the thing you much remember is that you are not up on stage for you to worship (at least not in a traditional sense). if you can, then that is all good, but your primary goal is to help everyone else worship. your time to worship is when you are not playing (this is why it's important to have time off!) we still use paper music on stage, not nessercery because we dont know the songs well (some of them we have been playing for years!) but it is just to keep the quality up. if we forget a song a quick glance down refreshes out memory. your job is to play the best you can so the congragation is not distracted by mistakes and having music on stage is the best way to avoid mistakes. this is no excuse not to know a song well of course (which is a trap you can fall into).

remember, you are doing this for God! think of it more like your offering to God (which is still worship) than the usual sing songs kind of worship.

hope this helps some people. comments, sugestions, flames welcome!
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PunkStar
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually find it really hard to "worship" when I'm playing and singing. Mostly because I'm busy focusing on the playing and making sure I get the notes right. As a result, I feel there isn't a lot of heart in my music. Anyone got any advice for fixing that?
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sharring
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Play it so many times that when you are violently awakened at 3am you are able to play it perfectly. Laughing
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Brian
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

malevolentsparkle wrote:
hi, i'm a worship co-ordinator for henderson baptist church in waitakere city, new zealand...
the thing you much remember is that you are not up on stage for you to worship (at least not in a traditional sense). if you can, then that is all good, but your primary goal is to help everyone else worship. your time to worship is when you are not playing (this is why it's important to have time off!)


Hi mes! God Bless You and Welcome to the board! Wow, you guys get time off? Shocked

No flames here brother but I am fully convinced that He works through me to bring the congregation into Worship. If I am in a state of skillful Worship, He blesses that (1Chron 25:3-8, and of course all of Ps 33 ).
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malevolentsparkle
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hay, i was no way saying that you shouldnt worship while playing, but especially if your inexperienced, it can bring the whole service down if you are trying something you cant do.
all im saying is that there are other ways to worship while on stage that dont have this risk. make your playing the worship, put your love of God into every note, every strum, every crash of a cymbal. play for God, not as though playing is a distraction to your 'worship'.

we have a pretty good system going now, we have three bands and we simply rotate. I play guitar in to two of the bands so one month i might do three services and the next two months i only do two. we have found this system really good because it means i dont have to nut out a roster every month (which can get difficult!) and also it means that people get a fairer amount of nights off. before this i picked out every individual person for each night, and we didnt have constant bands so everything was a bit unpredictable and boring. now we have constant people in each band and we are starting to differentiate stylistically. for example one band is heading towards acoustic worship with piano, another rock with electric guitars blazing, and the third gets into to the old funky 'classics' (im probably talking 80's here, the stuff that was new when we were kids)
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Brian
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

malevolentsparkle wrote:
...and the third gets into to the old funky 'classics' (im probably talking 80's here, the stuff that was new when we were kids)


We??????? Laughing You'll have to add another 15-20 yrs for me AND some of my esteemed colleagues and brothers here. Very Happy Love you Brother mes!
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sharring
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I resemble that remark Wink
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PunkStar
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't. Wink
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jeff_osu
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PunkStar wrote:
I don't. Wink


Me neither. Wink Laughing
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