Tips !

Bates15 · Moderator Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 1084

PLease guys. Let me know if you need help with anything. I love helping but if you dont ask me anything I cant help out. O well, maybee I am just trying to keep this thread going hehehehe

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ACfixer · Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:13 am Post subject: Tips !

Ok Nate! How can I stop my mics from feeding back with any volume in my room addition (5 meters x 12 meters)? Peavey 600F PA, TLS5 speakers and Shure 58's?.

If it will help I'll send a pic of the room and setup...

Bates15 · Moderator Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 1084

SM58 mics are known for their high gain before feedback abbilitys. Do you have a EQ hooked up ? A EQ could do a miracle.

I mean a 31 band EQ. Parametric will do fine but is somewhat hard to get to know without any knowlidge of how it works.

Just find the feedback frequenty and kill it till it stops howling. Then raise the level till it starts feedbacking again. Do the same trick again.... We do that with big monitor systems. Just get the max out of the system till you get what ever level of Db you need.

Then of course you have the Peavey Feedback Ferret, Behringer (cant belive I am telling you to get this) feedback destroyer or varicurve. They do basicly the same thing : Find whatever frequenty that is giving a feedback and kill it (ie. minus 20 till 60 db) Very fast, very cheap, could kill your mix if installed wrongly. Their are some pro feedback killers but they are pricy. Check out SABINE if you want a nice one.....

You could of course just take the mike away from infront of your speaker..... lol

Help you ?

N_O_VATER220 · Newbie Alert Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 3

Hey whats up? Im joe, 22 from kentucky. I play lead guitar for my church of about 400 people. The equipment that i use go's as follows......Fender American delux strat, pluged into a vox tone lab, then into a boost pedal for when i solo, then from there it go's to the PA. ..... Now here is my problem, ...... i dont really know how to explane it, but i dont sound .....real... if you know what i mean....... it sorta sounds like my moniter is covered with a bunch of quilts or something... does that make any since??.......its not that i cant hear myself i can hear myself fine,,,, it just sounds muffled..., ......just not real. All i know is taht i can take my stuff home....... plug into my amp and it sounds fine... I wish i could use my amp onstage and just let them mic the amp, then i would get rid of the vox and just use my stompboxes that i have,, However, i cant use my amp because of 1. space, i have maybe two feet of space to my right and then two feet infront of me, just enough room to put my guitar, and the foot controller for the vox,........ which stinks i know......they should spread us out over the whole stage, because our stage is big, but then we would be in the chior's way.. everyone is strictly volunteering except the worship leader, he's the only one who gets paid.... not that im griping or anything, just letting you now that our sound guys are volunteering also, ....
so is there anyway i can fix this???, a pedal or rack i need to get, get rid of the vox and get something else?, or just grin and like it.

also just incase this helps this is our set up, the band consist of, two keyboard players, like 4feet infront of me, an accoustic and a bass player, about 3.5 feet to my right and left. and then a drummer playing this set of eletric drums, directly behind me,

ACfixer · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:11 am Post subject:

WELCOME JOE!!!!
Any help here Nate?

Bates15 · Moderator Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 1084

Aha, firts of all i think you should boost the pre-amp of the VOX and not the signal that comes out of it, just a mind spin, but that is the usual way doing it..... Then the question is how do you get your signal into the mixer. Do you run in straight to the board, do you use a DI-box (ifso what one?)

Do you have your own monitor mix or do you share your monitor?
Is the monitors tweeter broken?
What kind of monitor and amp do you use? (brand + type)
Have you checked all the cables?
Did your soundman turn all your high frequenties down couse you sounded to bright?

There could be a hundred reasons why it does what it does now.... I would start with the way you connect and the integrity of the monitor and work your way up from there......

The VOX works fine, dont get rid of it unless you want to get something comnpletly different! Racks arn't the awnser all the time!

BTW In-ear monitors or a headphone on stage work fine in those situations.....

N_O_VATER220 · Newbie Alert Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 3

well i do share my moniter mix....... i play lead and im sharing my mix with the accoustic player which sucks.....leme tell ya.... i run the signal from the vox into the wall, with this cord that has an instrument type plug on one end and then a mic type plug on the other end,.... so i dont use a di box........i was thinking about getting an h&k red box.....to see if that would solve it, but i havent yet..... would that be a good idea...... as for the moniter...we have a mix of peavey and yammah on stage, and im pretty sure mine is a yahamma, 1x12, the accoustic player has his own moniter, but we are in the same mix...ive been told that were going to be fixing that problem soon tho.........but ya never know.........so do you think that red box would be a good idea??.... or just get a standard di box???.....sorry its taken me so long to reply but im off at college now.

N_O_VATER220 · Newbie Alert Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 3

no help yet????

ACfixer · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:50 pm Post subject:

Joe, I wish I could help but the stuff you guys are talking about is so greek to me I am just trying to pick up a little knowledge through osmosis. Very Happy

Bates15 · Moderator Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 1084