Presidental canidates...

sharring · Tiger Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 812 Location: Texas

Has anyone been paying attention to the primary polls in Iowa? Huckabee came out of nowhere to take a big lead on the Republican side. Newsweek did a cover story on him this week. Seems he's an ordained Southern Baptist minister as well as a bass player. What's not to like?

Bates15 · Moderator Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 1084

As important to world matters as it is, I missed about evrything about the canidates this time.... Any one we should beware of?

jeff_osu · Tiger Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 838 Location: Oklahoma

I'm hoping Fred Thompson gets the nod.

J Dan Brown · Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:35 am Post subject:

Huckabee has been my wife, Sheila's and my favorite,, up until now. I think that his bold Christianity will frighten the average American like my singing at the VA, but what do I know? They tell me my brain occaisionally shorts out, and I have to believe them, 'cause why would they lie, whether I remember or not? Confused

Blessed, with enormous bounty, Dan

PunkStar · Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject:

Here in Aus, the only thing we hear about the US election is Hilary and Obama. But then, we have more recently been concerned with choosing our own new government (I haven't decided whether it's a good thing or not).

So I'll agree with Nate, anything we need to know?

sharring · Tiger Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 812 Location: Texas

Nate and Punk-Since i've been leaning toward the Republican philosophy for the last ten years i have a hard time with Hillary's support of gay rights and pro-life (favoring abortion) platform. Although Obama shares the same platform, i find his reasoning on his beliefs easier to follow and well thought out, even though i don't agree with them. Also Hillary is a government insider whereas Obama is a newcomer-they say a new broom sweeps clean right?

PunkStar · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:45 am Post subject:

George E · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject:

sharring · Tiger Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 812 Location: Texas

So can someone give an example of his boldness that frightens? I admit i havent followed as closely as i would like-hence the reason for this discussion. As far a theological differences George E, the Bible has solved most of my dilemmas regarding doctrine. It seems pretty straightforward on most things. And Huckabee's not running for pope. But i like knowing some of the candidate's principles.

George E · Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject:

sharring · Tiger Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 812 Location: Texas

All people are driven by preconcieved ideas Geroge E. That's why Huckabees "bold" Christianity is important. He knows and accepts that he will be held to a higher standard by believers and will be a witness (good or bad) to non-believers. As far as presidents who use the power of government to enforce their preceptions of God's law, isn't that exactly what George Bush did when he vetoed stem cell research?I dare say every president since George Washington is guilty of this. Are you against the power of the office or are you against decisions made on specific issues you don't agree with? And how do you know that his interpretation of Christianity is so different than yours? You must know his pretty well to make such a statement. Perhaps you would like to share?

markm2553 · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject:

I guess I need to start paying a little more attention, I'm sure there will be people in my congregation asking my option soon enough.

I agree that many people don't understand the separation of Church and State we attempt here in the US. We must remember it's freedom of religion, not from it...

Conservative is important to me, the prez will last 4, maybe 8 years, but the appointments to the supreme court can direct the country for decades.

Abortion is my no waver issue.

I heard Fox has some kind of test you can take online to see who you match up with closest on the issues?
I will look for it next week and post a link if I can. It would be kind of interesting for all of us to take the test and see who we like on the issues alone...

J Dan Brown · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject:

Mr. Sharring, for some reason, I tend to understand where you're going, what you're saying, and have no problem agreeing with and understanding all you state. Mr. George, forgive me, but you lose me most of the time. At times, I have trouble relating what you're saying to what we were discussing. More than likely, it's my lack of a formal education which hampers my understanding, or my thinking that debate in certain situations is mostly futile. Who knows? I am an idiot, I have been told!

All I'm sure of is that I would like a President who would stand up for the Word and Christian values and have "no empty words and no white lies, no token prayers and no compromise." Someone bold enough to say that He believes that the Bible is all true and no part of a fairy tale or some fable. I am not for someone who would play a "lesser of two evils" game and compromise on a Christian value because we have tried it before and it didn't work, so why try it now.

Sin is sin, no matter what, and Christians should react to it the same, no matter what and that is with disgust and intolerance! This goes for a Christian President, as well. I use the Living Word as my guide for everything and think a President should as well, and really don't care what anyone thinks except my Savior and His Father, as long as I strive to follow this perfect, living guide as I hope my choice for President would. I am also certainly wise enough to know that this would not be much popular, even among some "Christians" which is what I meant with his boldness about his faith frightening the average American. I am for sure it doesn't frighten me!
Blessed, by this country, regardless of the wounds She's endured and healings yet to come, Dan

George E · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:28 am Post subject:

J Dan Brown · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:17 am Post subject:

George, please forgive me for being such a poor communicator. I must be if you could interpret anything I said above to say that I believed that all the characters in Christ's parables were folks that had walked this earth. What I meant to say was that I believe God's word to be inerrant, pefect, without mistakes, not filled with secret codes and It is alive and is promised to me as a believer to be revealed to me, through much prayer and meditation on it, as I can understand it. I believe that God created everything, foretold and fulfilled a promised son, born of a virgin, died on a cross and rose and ascended to be with His Father and left the Holy Spirit and His words as our guide. He knew every moment in all our lives before He hung the stars in place. None of that is a fable or fairy tale! His Word is filled with nothing but truth, and I doubt my thoughts can be shaken on that!

I believe God to be sovereign, and hasn't allowed any mistranlations that really matter to occur. I don't believe we will ever have a President that as part of his inauguration speech says "America, Jesus loves me, He loves you too! How do I know this for sure? Because the Bible tells me so!" I think it would be great, but I don't expect it. Because most Christians in this country are too meek to stand up and be counted. I can only hope and pray that I am and act as God intended! That probably wasn't very clear either, and I am sorry.

I was once told that the interwoven three rings in the front of my "New King James" version is an ancient celtic symbol representing witches or something. It's like The original King James is all that is true. I can't accept that. I make it a point to compare all of the 5 most quoted versions to improve my understanding. Maybe that means I am stupid. Anyway I apologize for not being clear, if I wasn't. Perhaps I should offer less words and just read more and be careful that I am always understood. The old man in me wants to view some of this as a petty, argumentative, twisting of my words, but the new man can rejoice and feel loved. The old man wants to be reminded of those other guitar forums that I fled from, but the new man wants to fit in and maybe have his intelligence, faith and understanding of the big, important picture respected, if even for a tiny bit, although he is pretty ignorant. But some call me a dreamer. (heavy sigh)

Again I apologize and to all of you, please tell me instantly if I write anything inappropriate or out of line with The Living Word. I'll try to think and read more and type less, although I long to participate and share my thoughts on things. Remember, my brain occaisionally shorts out. Wink

Praise the Lord! And I live in a mobile home in a cow pasture in NW Louisiana, yet are not shamed and my Father is an retired earthworm rancher, and I once ranched tropical fish and marketed fossilized wood to aquarium shops.
Blessed, by a hopeful and prayerful understanding, Dan