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jeff_osu Tiger
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: New additions to the Bible |
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Not saying the Bible is lacking, but it seems odd that the story of Perpetua or other stories aren't in the Bible. If I had never taken Western Civ to 1500 I'd probaly have never heard of some of the stories I've recently read.
I think it'd be pertinent to include some of the olders stories and also include newer stories, such as Christians in WWII and such. What do yall think? |
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ACfixer Moderator
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't John/God warn against adding to the book in Revelation?  |
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jeff_osu Tiger
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Does he?
I'd like to read a compilation of various landmarks and instances throughout Christian history from the last 1500 years. Not necessarily in the Bible, but in a condensed book so you're not approaching it like a research paper. |
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ACfixer Moderator
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Revelation 22:18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book... |
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jeff_osu Tiger
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, scratch that idea.  |
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PunkStar Moderator
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I always wondered though if that verse can fairly be applied to the whole Bible, or if it was just written about changing the book of Revelation?
Although yeah, I'm totally against adding to the Bible. Generations of Christians have gotten by perfectly well with what we have already. There are some brilliant stories of great Christians out there, but I doubt they need to be added to the Bible when they've just been applying what is already in the Bible, rather than adding something new. |
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ACfixer Moderator
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Well said (as usual) Michael. God knew exactly what we need before time began. I have often wondered at great lengths about the years of Jesus' life from ages 12 to 30 or so and why nothing is said of those years. I have just come to the conclusion that it's nothing I need to know. Kinda fun to ponder that stuff though.
Oh, and I think that verse applies to the Bible as a whole. If I am not mistaken there is a similar verse in Psalms. I'll look for it later.
I like how you bring up WWII Jeff. Through all my fascination with history, it is my favorite era to learn about and I feel to this day that the men that fought that war are ten times the man I'll ever be. Although we never know what we're made of until confronted with a situation like that, I have come to the conclusion that I am a sniveling coward compared to the men that charged the beaches at Normandy and Iwo Jima. |
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jeff_osu Tiger
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ACfixer wrote: |
I like how you bring up WWII Jeff. Through all my fascination with history, it is my favorite era to learn about and I feel to this day that the men that fought that war are ten times the man I'll ever be. Although we never know what we're made of until confronted with a situation like that, I have come to the conclusion that I am a sniveling coward compared to the men that charged the beaches at Normandy and Iwo Jima. |
That generation really embodies the title of "The Greatest Generation". When I think of my grandpa and all he did, it amazes me, and the thing is that's how most men were in that age. Tough, determined, and honorable.
In Sweden there were monks who helped the Jews and such, but you don't really hear about many stories like that. |
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PunkStar Moderator
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Revelation 22:18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book... |
When I read the verse in Revelation, I always took it that it just refered to the book of Revelation. At the time it was written, the Bible hadn't been compiled yet. So one wouldn't think that that verse could apply to the whole Bible. It would seem like pulling the verse out of context, which I don't believe is a good way to study the Bible.
But on the other hand, God had His hand in the compiling of the Bible. He knew what parts would go together to make it and even what words would be used. Words that were carefully and deliberately chosen to give the right shade of meaning no doubt. So it also seems reasonable to me that could very well have added that warning at the end of Revelation, which He knew would therefore appear at the end of the Bible. He put the warning at the end of Revelation because He wouldn't be able to add a small section at the end (with the Bible being a compilation of writings after all) telling us not to add or subtract from the whole Bible.
I'm not really sure which of these views would be right. Or maybe I've missed the point entirely. Perhaps one of the Bible scholars on site could provide some insight here for me?
And on the subject of those brave people who fought to protect their respective countries, we salute you. I only hope we don't have to do that. |
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markm2553 Moderator
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: |
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I think maybe a short answer here is that the Bible is not a book of stories about good and evil. Or about good people or bad.
It is the book about Christ. Christ is the Word made flesh. The Bible points out man's lost relationship with God and how Jesus can make us right again with God.
Stories about Christian's are great, and should help encourage us in our walk. And humble us. But our hope and Faith is in Christ alone.
I like "Jesus Freaks" and have been reading "Foxes book of martyrs". It was written in the 1500's I think. I read what other Christians have went through, and I feel sick over the stupid complaints I've made from time to time.  |
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ACfixer Moderator
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| PunkStar wrote: | | Quote: | | Revelation 22:18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book... |
When I read the verse in Revelation, I always took it that it just refered to the book of Revelation. At the time it was written, the Bible hadn't been compiled yet. So one wouldn't think that that verse could apply to the whole Bible. It would seem like pulling the verse out of context, which I don't believe is a good way to study the Bible. |
I'll have to respectfully disagree. God knew that would be the last book of the Bible whether John knew it or not... and I think that verse being near the end is no accident. JMO |
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jeff_osu Tiger
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't really know about that verse, so I'm going to recant and say the Bible is fine the way it is. However, I would like to read a book with miscelleneous stories from the last 1500 years. Not in the Bible though. |
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markm2553 Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| jeff_osu wrote: | | I didn't really know about that verse, so I'm going to recant and say the Bible is fine the way it is. |
Your OK by me Jeff, I don't care what anyone else says about ya.  |
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jeff_osu Tiger
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| Wow, this was before I heard of the different Councils and such. Anyone read the Gospel of Thomas? |
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sharring Tiger
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| Jeff, if i recall there is a collection of uncannonized books called the Apocrypha that has those "other" gospels. I read it in college when i was young. I don't remember the gospel of Thomas, but i remember the one on Enoch. At the time i was fascinated with the account of the giants (sons of Anak) and this story included them. |
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